Chops through the forest to face his foes
Elusive and unpredictable, Timbersaw chops through the forest to face his foes. Unleashing an arsenal of saw blades to cut enemies to pieces, he rides his chain into nearby trees and batters foes along the way.
Win Rate 48.7%
Pick Rate 7.0%
Attributes
![timbersaw Image](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/heroes/shredder.webp)
594 +77/lvl
276 +32.4/lvl
![Strength Image](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/attributes/Strength.png)
27 +3.5/lvl
![Agility Image](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/attributes/Agility.png)
16 +1.6/lvl
![Intelligence Image](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/attributes/Intelligence.png)
23 +2.7/lvl
Stats
![Attack](https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/apps/dota2/images/dota_react//heroes/stats/icon_damage.png)
Damage:
23 - 27 + 1.6/level (69.4 - 73.4 at level 30)
![Attack](https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/apps/dota2/images/dota_react//heroes/stats/icon_attack_range.png)
Range:
150
![Attack](https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/apps/dota2/images/dota_react//heroes/stats/icon_armor.png)
Armor:
0 + 0.3/level (8.7 at level 30)
![Attack](https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/apps/dota2/images/dota_react//heroes/stats/icon_movement_speed.png)
Movement:
285
Roles
Carry
Escape
Nuker
Initiator
Durable
Disabler
Support
Pusher
Facets
![tree icon](https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/apps/dota2/images/dota_react/icons/facets/tree.png)
Shredder
Win Rate: 48.4%
Pick Rate: 22.5%
Timber Chain splinters the tree into all directions around Timbersaw.
![](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/abilities/shredder_timber_chain.webp)
Timber Chain
When Timbersaw collides with the target tree, it shatters, sending 10 splinters in all directions, up to 700 distance. If a splinter hits an enemy, they take damage and are slowed for a brief duration.
SPLINTER DAMAGE:
20/40/60/80
SPLINTER SLOW DURATION:
0.75
SPLINTER SLOW:
30%/40%/50%/60%
![spinning icon](https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/apps/dota2/images/dota_react/icons/facets/spinning.png)
Twisted Chakram
Win Rate: 48.8%
Pick Rate: 77.5%
Launches a second independent Chakram that follows a curved path and returns to Timbersaw, damaging and slowing enemies it passes through. Enemies caught in the saw blade will move more slowly for every 5% of health missing.
RADIUS:
125
PASS DAMAGE:
110/155/200
![Cool Down](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/generic/cooldown.webp)
20/16/12
![Mana Cost](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/generic/mana.webp)
100
Abilities
![Innate Ability Image](https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/apps/dota2/images/dota_react/icons/innate_icon.png)
Exposure Therapy
Whenever Timbersaw destroys a tree, he gains 3/4/5/6 mana.
![](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/abilities/shredder_whirling_death.webp)
Whirling Death
Timbersaw whirls extremely sharp edges, damaging enemies and destroying trees around him in an area. If an enemy hero is affected, it loses some of its primary attribute for a short duration. Whirling Death will deal bonus damage per tree destroyed.
PASSIVE:No
DISPELLABLE:basic
whirling radius:325
whirling damage:85 / 130 / 175 / 220
tree damage scale:11 / 18 / 25 / 32
whirling tick:0.3
stat loss pct:13
stat loss univ:5
duration:12 / 13 / 14 / 15
![Talet tree background](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_bg_psd.webp)
![Talent tree branches](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_bg_all_off_psd.webp)
![Talent tree branch](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_pip15_psd.png)
+3% Whirling Death Stat Loss
![Talent tree branch](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_pip25_psd.png)
+75 Whirling Death Tree Bonus Damage
![Cool Down](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/generic/cooldown.webp)
7.5 / 7 / 6.5 / 6
![Mana Cost](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/generic/mana.webp)
100
![](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/abilities/shredder_timber_chain.webp)
Timber Chain
Timbersaw fires a chain that embeds itself in the first tree it hits, pulling him towards it. Any enemy in the path takes damage.
PASSIVE:No
chain radius:90 / 90 / 90 / 90
AbilityCastRange:750 / 900 / 1050 / 1200
radius:225 / 225 / 225 / 225
speed:2200 / 2400 / 2600 / 2800
damage:50 / 95 / 140 / 185
![Talet tree background](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_bg_psd.webp)
![Talent tree branches](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_bg_all_off_psd.webp)
![Talent tree branch](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_pip25_psd.png)
+75% Timber Chain Range/Projectile Speed
![Cool Down](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/generic/cooldown.webp)
4
![Mana Cost](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/generic/mana.webp)
60 / 70 / 80 / 90
![](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/abilities/shredder_reactive_armor.webp)
Reactive Armor
Each time Timbersaw is attacked, he gains increased health regen and armor. Hero attacks are counted as 3x the amount.
PASSIVE:Breakable
bonus armor:0.4 / 0.5 / 0.6 / 0.7
bonus hp regen:0.3 / 0.4 / 0.5 / 0.6
stack limit:12 / 22 / 32 / 42
stack duration:10 / 12 / 14 / 16
stacks per hero attack:3
initial shield:200
shield per sec:100
shield per sec per enemy:75
max shield:800
duration:8
radius:600
explosion radius:600
base explosion:200
![Talet tree background](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_bg_psd.webp)
![Talent tree branches](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_bg_all_off_psd.webp)
![Talent tree branch](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_pip10_psd.png)
+0.2 Reactive Armor Regeneration Per Stack
![Talent tree branch](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_pip15_psd.png)
+6 Max / +1 Hero Attack Reactive Armor Stacks
![Cool Down](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/generic/cooldown.webp)
45
![](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/abilities/shredder_chakram.webp)
Chakram
Fires Timbersaw's main saw blade at the target location where it will spin in place, dealing damage in an area around it. Enemies caught in the saw blade will move more slowly for every 5 of health missing. The blade deals damage and cuts down trees in its path when fired and retracted. While active the ability costs mana, and Timbersaw loses the ability to attack.
AFFECTS:area
PASSIVE:No
speed:900
radius:200
pass damage:110 / 155 / 200
damage per second:50 / 75 / 100
movement slow:5
damage interval:0.5
break distance:2000
mana per second:14 / 22 / 30
pass slow duration:0.5
slow health percentage:5
![Aghanim Scepter](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/items/aghsstatus_scepter_on.png)
![Aghanim Shard](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/items/aghsstatus_shard.png)
Aghanim`s Scepter Upgrade
Increases Chakram and Second Chakram damage per second.
![Talet tree background](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_bg_psd.webp)
![Talent tree branches](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_bg_all_off_psd.webp)
![Talent tree branch](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_pip20_psd.png)
+5% Chakram Slow
![Cool Down](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/generic/cooldown.webp)
8 / 8 / 8
![Mana Cost](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/generic/mana.webp)
75 / 125 / 175
![](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/abilities/shredder_flamethrower.webp)
Flamethrower
Releases a flame in the direction Timbersaw is facing. Applies a debuff that deals damage per second and slows enemy movement speed. Affects buildings for reduced damage.
PASSIVE:No
DISPELLABLE:basic
DEBUFF:yes
damage per second:70
duration:8
width:275
length:400
move slow pct:30
building dmg pct:40
debuff linger duration:2
![Cool Down](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/generic/cooldown.webp)
20
![Mana Cost](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/generic/mana.webp)
100
Talents
![Talet tree background](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_bg_psd.webp)
![Talent tree branches](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_bg_all_off_psd.webp)
![Talent tree branch](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_pip10_psd.png)
![Talent tree branch](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_pip10_psd.png)
+0.2 Reactive Armor Regeneration Per Stack
+1.5 Mana Regen
![Talet tree background](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_bg_psd.webp)
![Talent tree branches](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_bg_all_off_psd.webp)
![Talent tree branch](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_pip15_psd.png)
![Talent tree branch](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_pip15_psd.png)
+3% Whirling Death Stat Loss
+6 Max / +1 Hero Attack Reactive Armor Stacks
![Talet tree background](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_bg_psd.webp)
![Talent tree branches](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_bg_all_off_psd.webp)
![Talent tree branch](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_pip20_psd.png)
![Talent tree branch](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_pip20_psd.png)
+20% Magic Resistance
+5% Chakram Slow
![Talet tree background](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_bg_psd.webp)
![Talent tree branches](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_bg_all_off_psd.webp)
![Talent tree branch](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_pip25_psd.png)
![Talent tree branch](https://download.dotacoach.gg/app/images/talentTree/statbranch_button_pip25_psd.png)
+75 Whirling Death Tree Bonus Damage
+75% Timber Chain Range/Projectile Speed
Strategy
Use Whirling Death to secure last hits, harass opponents and at the same time cut some trees with it.
Consider putting a point in the Timber Chain early on tough lanes.
Keep Reactive Armor stacks high to be able to play aggressively and not fear for your life.
Check how many stick charges opponents have when you are going for a kill.
Consider tanking tower shots to keep the catapult alive.
Timbersaw isn't the best at rotating. You'd rather force opponents to come to you by playing aggressively.
Consider parking yourself in front of the tower opponents are looking to destroy. Build up armor stacks though.
Items that reduce healing and break effects are a big problem. Itemize against them and adjust playstyle.
When not much is happening, push out the sidelines even out of vision if necessary.
Pick up Aghanims Shard later in the game as it improves DPS and provides much needed building damage.
You do not necessarily want to go to late game, so try to close out the game before you fall off.
Counter Strategy
One player should buy Spirit Vessel against Timbersaw's reactive armor
Play agressively against Timbersaw before he reaches level 3, or only when his reactive armor stacks are low, otherwise avoid fighting him
Stay away from trees against Timbersaw
Timbersaw is strongest between 8 and 20 minutes, so avoid contesting him on the lane and try to pressure other lanes and heroes instead
Buy Silver Edge against Timbersaw's reactive armor, if you need an additional item to deal with him
Lore
Rizzrack could still hear the screams in his mind. He worked, frantically turning wrenches, twisting screws, building and carving and forging. Sleep eluded him; he only built. Months had passed since he had shut himself in his uncle's workshop, and his deliverance was nearly complete. He rubbed his back as his eyes drifted shut, and saw a blanket of flowers floating on the placid waves of Augury Bay before exploding into a cloud of pollen that silenced lives as it seized the lungs. He woke with a choking start. For hours the rhythmic sound of a whetstone filled the shop as he sharpened a set of massive blades, his mind filled with images of strangling vines garroting neighbors, enwrapping homes. The flooding of Augury Bay had been nothing compared to the violent horrors the waters left to take root beyond the city walls. But the saw-suit would make him strong and safe he thought, allowing himself this sliver of hope before the full might of his fear crashed into his fading mind. Branches and bark and blood. When the city fell, Rizzrack fled trees that walked, and fought, and killed. Trees had shattered the gates and swarmed into the city. Trees had crushed and thrashed and stomped the last that Augury Bay could muster in defense, and stalked the few fleeing refugees. In addled silence Rizzrack unspooled the thick chain from the suit's arm, his hands quaking as he inspected each link and ran a trembling finger along the claw attached at its end. The saw-suit was ready. With his hand trembling he sparked the bladed machine to life. Terror drove him, terror of what awaited him and of what he would have to face to have any hope of calming his mind. As the saw-suit shuddered to life he knew he must face this fear, and he knew he wouldn't like it one bit.